Posts by Pete Zahut

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A JW experience

by Saintbertholdt in

this is a quick experience i have recently had and i have two questions at the end.. a couple of weeks ago, the dogs were barking at the gate on saturday morning and wouldn't you know it, it was some witnesses.

there was a father with his lovely wife and their young daughter.

the father did all the talking as mother and daughter just dutifully smiled and watched.

Pete Zahut

My answer to those questions is as follows.

Bad news sells and that's why the daily media concentrates on the handful of people who are causing problems each day rather than on the billions who are having a normal day.

Jehovah's Witnesses meet together each week to listen to talks and study and discuss literature that primarily focuses on the wickedness of certain people of the world and highlights the mistakes made by other religious groups. They then use the news events of the day to confirm that their negative foregone conclusion is true. Even though they all benefit from all the historically unprecedented improvements in current health and living conditions and the strides that others have worked hard to accomplish in this regard, they choose to see the world as broken and irredeemable and the only solution is for God to kill billions of men women and children if they don't become Jehovah's Witnesses.

Do you see anything skewed about this?

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Thoughts during the meeting today

by stephanie61092 in

while i'm politely sitting during the meeting today, restraining myself from rolling my eyes as the brother drones on about how "having an independent spirit is devilish in nature" and "independence from gods organization only results in pain and strife", i only have one thought going through my mind over and over.

"what would happen if i pulled out a gun and blew my brains out in this kingdom hall?".

would anyone notice or care?

Pete Zahut

You know, of course that they'd notice and that they'd care in their own way but they'd also be saying "How very sad...just goes to show how much pain and strife these stubborn independent thinkers endure, just like they said in the Watchtower today (sigh) "

If you think they'd implicate their own actions in any of the suffering you are enduring, you'd be wrong. To them, this was all brought upon yourself. Having your nose rubbed in it today is part of Jehovah's loving provision.

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Hypocrites

by atomant in

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get this my sister and her elder husband are visiting from over seas and are currently being groomed by bethel how to set a better example.they are being told how to behave right down to how to dress to set a proper christian example.anyway they are both over weight by a fair margin to be considered unhealthy.the clincher is this elder whom is over weight had the outright cheek to counsel my other sister whom is a j dub that she is over weight and needs to do something about it.

now hows that for hypocritical behaviour.prime example in any ones book dont you think???

?

Pete Zahut

I visited my Brother a few years ago in the West Palm Beach area and attended his meeting. It was the Circuit Overseers visit and this guy was huge...not just chubby but seriously obese. I'd guess he was about 5'10 and well on his way to or even possibly over 300 lbs. His suit must have been specially made.

At the end of the meeting he announced his plans for the week of activity. Most of it revolved around where he was going to eat and how much he was looking forward to sharing a meal with the "different ones". He even said..."And as everybody knows....Jehovah's people looooove to eat ! "

This was met with raucous laughter from the audience as if he had made the most witty of remarks. I couldn't believe in his condition and in view of what the Bible say's about gluttony, he'd bring up the topic of eating.

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Witness Punk and Metal Band Names

by Luther bertrand in

here is what i would name my band(s) let see if you can list some funny ones as well.

here is my list:.

local needs.

Pete Zahut

Limp Doctrine

Billions in Brooklyn

Malignant Membership

Cringeworty Broadcaster

2 Witness Rulers

Website Wierdo

Tazed Russellites

Pinhead Populace

Generation Guess

Apocalypse Apostles

Cult Casualties

9-Teen 4-Teen Revisited

New Order Disorder

Blood Fraction Fallacy

Depressed Sisterz

Frenzy of 75

Love Bomb Conspiracy

Killer Truths

Disturbed Householders

Tight Pants Tything

Building Beth Sarim

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Your Favorite Poetry

by compound complex in

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thank you, dear friends, for expressing your thoughts today on the importance of the arts in your lives.

many years ago, a number of threads were devoted to poetry, literature, even english grammar.

rather than resurrect an old thread -- usually with zero results -- i would like to introduce a new post, asking you to add some of your favorite verse.

Pete Zahut

The Heart of A Tree
Henry Cuyler Bunner

What does he plant who plants a tree?
He plants cool shade and tender rain
the seed and bud of days to be
in years that fade and flush again.

He plants to glory of the plain
he plants to forest heritage
the harvest of the coming idea
the joy that unborn eyes shall see
these things he plants
who plants a tree.

What does he plant who plants a tree?
He plants in sap and leaf and wood
in love of home and loyalty
and far cast thought of civic good

God’s blessing on the neighborhood
who in the hollow of His hand
holds all the growth of all our land
a nation’s growth from sea to sea
stirs in his heart who plants a tree.”

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Stephen Lett at our assembly today

by StarTrekAngel in

he delivered the most cultic piece of propaganda i've ever seen in an assembly.

wife typed up the whole thing.

i will be posting when i get a chance.

Pete Zahut

StarTek must have been drug to one of those oh so wonderful JW dinners that happen after assembly. Ya know, the ones where 16 people insist at sitting all together at a super long table in a restaurant. Where it takes forever to get the order taken, the food delivered, and finally to split up the check

You might be a JW if you've never eaten in a restaurant without being seated at a table for 24.

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My experience with the people in my hall

by Freeandclear in

i've been awake now for about 6 months i'd guess and a member here for a couple of weeks.

it's been eye opening to read other peoples experiences on here and i appreciate all of you.

i've noticed in many, seemingly most, of your comments that you were not treated well at your hall or you have had very negative experiences in the "org" so i thought i'd like to share mine.. in all my time as a jw i have to say for the most part i always loved the people.

Pete Zahut

I generally felt the same as you did about those I attended meeting with and knew as a JW and I like you was a bit naive' about people and glossed over what was really going on behind the scenes. In time, I realized that I was projecting my own good will and good intent onto others and the feelings I had about my experiences were based in emotion and how I was seeing things. The lifelong relationships I had with people were really quite one sided.

Once you get serious about the holes you are seeing in the doctrines or want real answers to your questions and speak to anyone about them, you begin to realize that they too have the same questions and these questions scare them. These once lovely people take on a whole new demeanor once you go off the carefully crafted JW script that is dependent on everyone speaking their lines and moving as directed.

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Jw's go to the door of a biblical scholar to preach the Bible.

by paradisebeauty in

this is interesting, jw's go to the door of a biblical scholar, a professor in theology i believe, and he invites them in and records the whole conversation.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xpo43bgdbm.

Pete Zahut

To me as I watched this video, it struck me that both parties (esp the old guy) were quite impressed with how much they knew about the Bible and how well they could cobble together an argument using connect the dot scriptures.

To me, the further they went along, the more they began to sound like a group of nerds discussing the intricacies of Star Trek or The Lord of The Rings trilogy as if these writings were based in reality.

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College and EX-JW Discontent....Questions and Stats

by teenyuck in

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*many* ex-jws say that they were robbed of an education due to the wtbts and as a result, they feel that their families and the wt screwed up their life by depriving them of the opportunity to go to college and therefore, earn a high salary at a job they love.

here is a link to the us census which shows that approximately 26% of the us population graduates college.

page 5, towards the bottom, shows the college graduation stats.

Pete Zahut

Here is a link to the US Census which shows that approximately 26% of the US population graduates college. Page 5, towards the bottom, shows the college graduation stats.

The population of the U.S last year was around 320 million

26% of that number is around 83 million people who were able to attended college.

I think Teenyuck is not understanding why people are angry about not being allowed to go on to higher education. No one said that going to College was a guarantee of success but it would have been nice to have had that option rather than have been told in so many words, that to do so, could cost us our lives.

Do you know if your parents had a college fund set up for you? Did you have a secret stash of money you were going use to pay for college?

The typical JW parent didn't bother to save for their own retirement let alone save for their children's college fund. Why would they when the wicked system of things along with it's evil institutes of higher learning, was about to be destroyed?

Did you take the SAT or ACT? Did you get good to great grades in high school? Were your parents focused on academics and did they really push you to get all you could from the educational system?4. Were you prepared to go to a community college, take out loans, ask for grants, work to fill out the financial picture; all to pay for your education?

When you don't have college as an option, you don't take the SAT or ACT tests or look into grants loans or scholarships. What would be the point if attending college could "supposedly" cost you your everlasting life in a paradise which was supposedly"right around the corner" ?

The point is, we were robbed of the choice to take advantage of the opportunities that were available to us. Our parents made choices about our futures based on information they read, written by men they didn't even know.

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Walking a thin line - Resigning Elder

by Sanchy in

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warning of a long boring post ahead.

i feel like i need to vent my story out, as i feel quite helpless at the moment.. i'm 31 year old, married, father of toddler with another one on the way, due later this month.

i've been serving as elder for about 4 years now in a south florida congregation.

Pete Zahut

She kept defending the org claiming that it's "not perfect, but closer than any other religion" so there's that, ... but, at least she's listening.

How many religions has she actually studied? Or is her knowledge of other religions based on what she's read in the Societies Literature?

A lot of people have misconceptions about what Jehovah's Witnesses believe because they only know what they've heard.

Ask your wife if it would be wise for a person to buy a car from a Ford Dealership who presented her with one sided or negative information about Chevrolet's and other makes of cars and warned/threatened her against verifying the information by checking it directly with the other manufacturers. Most Jehovah's Witnesses only know about other religions via Jehovah's Witness filters and their minds are closed. Worse yet, they've never checked into the Blood Issue via outside sources yet are ready to die to uphold it.